SPONSORSHIP IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR YOUR MOTOR.

Yes Mark but I was in there and was spur of the moment.

I've just today,had new brake calipers fitted all round. Looking at the bill- anybody want to sponsor me ?

tonic wrote:

I've just today,had new brake calipers fitted all round. Looking at the bill- anybody want to sponsor me ?

I hope you didnt make the same mistake as me.. i went for genuine as i thought that was safest although the cost was far more.
2 weeks later and 2 of them started leaking. Mate who runs on ebay cheapies hasnt had a problem in years of using them.

Typical

Lesson learnt for next time

Ngiri wrote:

Interesting discussion and in my opinion you view funding the rally as you would a vacation, i.e. you work out how much it will cost and put money aside accordingly. I view fundraising as the core reason for taking part and every penny raised goes to H4H. Sadly we are finding it tough down here to fund raise. I have approached a number of businesses locally asking for a donation and if they donate to H4H (not me) I will put their name on the truck. Sadly I have no names yet.
Bye the bye, I am a retired police officer and I paid £25 for my new set of wiper blades from County Land Rover! I resent people who try to blag equipment for themselves on the back of a charity.
We look forward to being on the rally amongst friends who also believe in our Armed Forces and the sacrifices they make.

Well said David! We are with you and Nick on this. There are no grey areas - participants should stand the ALL the costs. If you can't afford it, you don't go - simples!
As we said before, you don't have to go on the Rally to raise funds - that can be done anywhere at any time - taking part in the Rally is just a bonus.

WoW what a discussion. Nick you have started something here . But joking aside, my view is pretty much the same as above. For us the actual rally is a holiday doing something we both love to do. The fund raising part is also something both Jannise and myself trully beleive in as its a fantasic cause. When we took part in 2011 we actually made a point to let any potential sponsors or people donating know that all costs have been paid for by us personnally and any funds donated would go directly to the charity as it should. On the parts front i did a deal with one of the sponsors we had to take the necessary parts we need for the rally (just in Case) and if used we pay for them. The parts not used they just put back into stock. Any parts we used we got at cost price. I am glad to say all part where returned
I dont see if you get parts at a cost price can be seen as funding your vehicle as your still having to pay for them.
I know everyone will have there own opinion on this but i guess in the end its your own conscience that will decide what is right and wrong.

I think if someone is willing to lone parts on a pay or return basis, I would not have any issues. As for getting them at cost, I always ask for their best deal and try to negotiate a discount in any event regardless of who or what!! I love haggling and am getting better at it.

I love haggling and am getting better at it.

Practice makes perfect David!!

I'm quite upset and concerned now really.

It would mean that if others are going to frown upon us, or we are thought of badly, then 2 teams, with the potential to raise lots of money would not be coming without fuel sponsorship next year. Therefore not raising money for the rally effort, which would be a great shame.

Im not saying i cant/wont fund my own way, nor am i saying i wouldnt raise for help for heroes without doing the rally, as evidenced this year, im doing my bit, but not going.

However, if I was to not go on the rally, then my fundraising effort would probably revert to my other commitments as a priority. Rather than having the rally as a priority if that makes sense at all? When doing the rally that is my commitment, but its not fair on my other charity work to make it my commitment if im not doing it.

If someone specifically wants to sponsor a teams fuel, i really cannot see an issue with it, I've had this discussion this week with my sponsor/friend and he wants to give me the fuel money as a thank you to me for helping him, and for doing everything else i do within the community, but he does not want to donate towards help for heroes, he is aware im doing the rally for H4H to raise funds for it, but he does not want the donation he gives to go towards the charity but for my costs. He has issues with H4H and thats fine if thats how he feels, he's intitled to feel like that.

Another situation for you then, if all my family were to get together and fund my fuel bill, would this be "wrong" too?
My "sponsor" is a friend, so its a friend giving me money to do the rally.
Or lets say my mate wants to give me £1000 as a present to say thank you for what i've done for him - because he can, thats £1000 of my own money then, in my bank, and thats what i use to pay for the fuel, is that not the same as him giving it to me for the fuel?

I dont want to come on the rally anymore if people are going to look badly on us for using a fuel sponsor

I'm not intending to argue or annoy anyone, im just obviously a bit concerned and want to clarify everything.

I think its a bit unfair to say if you cant afford it, dont do it, because we can afford it with a little help from friends/family (who our fuel sponsors are) and can raise lots of money for H4H. Not everyone has the money to do it, especially those of us in our 20's trying to buy a house! a £40,000 deposit MINIMUM is alot of cash to come up with HAHA.

Starting to feel like you dont want us on the rally anymore

Nothing to do with not wanting you on the rally Dan - you are part of it and a great asset! Well respected by all participants.
If friends and family give you money then it's your choice as to how you spend it - no argument there either.
End of.........!

There's two different things here.
Those who are going out and blatantly blagging stuff/cash in the name of h4h so they can do the rally cheaper, with ltlle or no cash going to h4h. I think that's what Russ' initial post was aimed at.


Those who are going on the rally, fundraising for h4h and getting assistance to whatever degree from friends/family. That is fine in my book and none of anyone else's business

At the end of the day, for me, it's about how the donator wants the money to be used.

As long as it's clear, and not open to misinterprtation, that's fine.

As per Marks, comment, it's those who do it for the jolly without any real fundraising, or use the event as an excuse to get their truck kitted out that need to be stopped.

Completely Agree with you Nick and Mark

Jan - i was only joking, i dont really feel "unwanted" love all you guys.

At the end of the day, standing outside Asda, collecting money for "help for heroes" and then using that for fuel/rally fees, you should be shot.

Trying to blag free kit for you or your motor that you intend to keep to kit you or your truck out - again wrong,
however if like the AA teams do, build/kit a vehicle and then sell it for the cause - no issues and bravo to you.

Fuel sponsors - as far as im concerned then if someone wants to pay your fuel, specifies thats what its for, and there is no confusion over what its being used for - crack on.

Those who are just going "on a jolly" at someone elses expense, thats not on, nor in the nature of the event.

My fund raising effort was awful for my year, i know that, it was difficult with my co driver and i didnt truely appreciate how much everyone else was putting into it.
That said, i do now, and next year, we're hoping to do alot better, im already almost at my total for 2011, and i dont even know who im doing it with yet!

Cheers all, hope everyone has a good weekend - weather looks awesome!