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+9zeb General Confusion paul7848 nickburt BOFA Bill jjakajmr Paul_H snow sycopaff 13 posters |
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Fuel Costs Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:12 pm | |
| I have planned and aproxomate route on google maps to work out mileage and it comes to 2514miles avoiding highways(to make sure). this includes my return trip through the alps!
Now my truck does about 300miles to a tank and a tank costs around £60 max! so if i give myself 3000miles, i divide that by 280miles to be sure and get 10.7 tanks. Now i've times that by 60 for the cost of a tank and got £642.85!!!
does this make sense?? | |
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:29 pm | |
| tried putting put link to the route but it cant handle it!lol | |
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snow Lieutenant
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-07-03 Age : 36 Location : brighton
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:29 pm | |
| About right I reakon thy amount in fuel to get there too!! But divided by 3 for each passanger share :-) | |
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Paul_H Staff Sergeant
Posts : 572 Join date : 2009-07-21 Age : 48 Location : Wirral
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:16 am | |
| Me and Nick get our fuel costs for the event down to about £700 including the trip back going to try and do a better estimate but for now £700 I am considering having an option for customers that want to advertise on the truck, to be able to chip into event costs might help put a small dint into that | |
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jjakajmr Lieutenant
Posts : 1098 Join date : 2009-08-09 Age : 70 Location : Kent
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:27 am | |
| Don't forget the off road bits where no mileage but plenty of juice. I think the ole girl is thirsty-er than yours. So nearer a grand!!!!! | |
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:30 am | |
| yeah, i'm looking to get a sponsor for a good chunk of the fuel and food costs. otherwise i'll have to start worrying!lol | |
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:42 am | |
| delete this post! i had a problem!lol
Last edited by sycopaff on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:45 am; edited 1 time in total | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:43 am | |
| Mmmm this is a highly 'hot' subject this.
Should sponsor monies be used for fuel and running costs of the rally? What do you ask people for? Sponser monies to do a rally? or Sponser monies for the charity?
For example.......... If a team raises £1000 and the fuel, costs etc = £1000. How much monies have been raised by that team for the charity?
Im just intrested in folks ideals on this as a couple have mentioned aboot asking folks and another has said that the fuel costs divided by 3........ etc etc etc
Just ideas please and NOT heated ideas
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:51 am | |
| im only asking a family member that owns a business. if i dont get help i might not be coming at all! some people dont have the monies to not look for help! i dont have £1500 sat in the bank waiting for a cross europe rally! infact, we could scrap the rally alltogether and just put a grand in a pot each and call it a day!lol i am saving every penny i can and so is the girlfriend. which means none of this and lots of | |
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nickburt Lieutenant
Posts : 2874 Join date : 2009-07-25 Age : 112 Location : Wallasey, Wirral
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:33 am | |
| Hmmm - bit of a double edged sword.
I never gave it a thought when I entered and just accepted that I'd foot the bill myself - after all it's going to be a family holiday as well.
But, no entrants, no rally. So it could be considered that running cost support could be part of a donation, or two/three etc... or maybe one sponsor would provide all running costs.
Difficult one to call.
Or, maybe it would be expected that we all knew what we were letting our selves in for and signed up to all monies going to charity.
I guess, the donators may have the right to determine how much goes to charity and how much is "expenses".
Dunno - hard call, unless H4H themselves have something to say about it??
As Bill says - Hot Topic ................ | |
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paul7848 Lance Corporal
Posts : 143 Join date : 2009-08-12 Location : morden surrey
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 am | |
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General Confusion Staff Sergeant
Posts : 951 Join date : 2009-07-14 Age : 67 Location : The Home for the Perpetually Bewildered
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:16 am | |
| I have been seeking two different types of sponsorship.
Corporate sponsorship (ie advertising) and companies, to help cover fuel costs etc and personal sponsorship which all goes straight to H4H.
Any surplus from corporate sponsorship will also go to H4H.
My company is talking about letting me use the company fuel account for the event, so no money will actually be involved, but it will help me to raise money by taking part. (if that makes sense) | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:28 am | |
| aye makes sence.
If no fuel card then no cash alternative as they will be able to 'hide' the cost of the fuel.
My fuel sponsor for the MAC over the last 6 years only found oot lately that his fuel donation went into the pot also. Plus Gift Aid. Didnae want to tell him in case he withdrew it as he did say that it was towards fuel.
Its a tuff call aw reet.
What ever ye decide then thats yer biz. Just remember the gift aid as that can add up to quite a bitty and maybe even cover the cost of the fuel so that one can honestly say that their poond went to the cause. If ye know the bisness then ask them to make cheque payable to you then you pay the dosh in with G/A. all adds up. | |
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snow Lieutenant
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-07-03 Age : 36 Location : brighton
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:12 am | |
| if i dont get some money to help towards fuel from a sponsor thats happy to help out, which will probably be a friend of the family, more than a random ask, I wouldnt be able to do the rally,
but primarily all costs will be split 3 way with the team members, but any sponsor who offers to help out on fuel, or "living costs" for the rally wont be turned down,
I think some that have said this is bad or that people could argue its wrong, forget, there is two different types of sponsors that were talking about here,
corporate/ companies and personal,
the big companies or any that are approached, will be for advertisement in return for generous amounts giving to the charity/ and or for helping out the team be able to complete/ do the rally,
there is then personal sponsors, like say my sis and her bf, his friends, my friends, randoms in the street etc etc
like at the shows when collecting with the buckets, your not going to use that money for fuel etc, thats all just for H4H, but joe bloggs on the street wont have there name on the car for giving a donation, as they arnt giving or helping the team in a substantial way, yes is they decided to give 250 to you its a lot, but you didnt ask them to
so im my eyes its different and I cant see why people would or have a problem with asking companies for help to complete the rally in fuel costs etc
i know the rally is all about raising money for h4h, but doing the rally also shows our support to troops out at war in afgan and iraq | |
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sycopaff Sergeant
Posts : 441 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 39 Location : isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:51 pm | |
| i agree. no one donating money to H4H will have their money in my tank, only a company that have agreed to do so for a spot on my truck!lol | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:31 pm | |
| - sycopaff wrote:
- i agree. no one donating money to H4H will have their money in my tank, only a company that have agreed to do so for a spot on my truck!lol
Mr Rust PLC will be poorer then after June with aw they spots in the infearier vehicles oot ther? Anon | |
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Paul_H Staff Sergeant
Posts : 572 Join date : 2009-07-21 Age : 48 Location : Wirral
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:33 pm | |
| I was going to go with a 3 tier way of doing it.
1. Dont support me but if you want to donate to the charity then you can do via my justgiving. 2. Donate money in return for advertising on the vehicle between now and for the event and on website etc 3. Donate an item or support the team in return for advertising on the vehicle website etc
The few people I had talked to have said that all seems reasonable as long as from the start your upfront about it and that you give the person with the money the choice.
I am throwing all the money I can to one side to cover the fuel costs as I know thats going to be daft and there are other costs involved too that I want to cover but if someone says to me here is a tent or here is another item or can we support you by chipping in a bit for fuel, should we say no to them and give it straight to the charity.
As others have said if were not able to physically be there then I cant raise the money for the charity.
I will check but I am sure iv seen it mentioned on other charity overland trips that you can support them by donating items to be used on the event or for the vehicle etc including support for fuel will keep my eyes open when im next looking | |
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zeb Corporal
Posts : 179 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Exiled Yorkshireman currently doing vital missionary work in darkest lancashire....!
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:45 pm | |
| Difficult one this as had been said
I'm funding the trip 100% with john my co driver, but i'm a position to be able to do that. I appreciate other teams will have to do it in different ways and that s fine by me.
At the end of the day, if it just raises another tenner for H4H then thats mission accomplished as far as i'm concerned | |
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Hoppie Lance Corporal
Posts : 78 Join date : 2009-07-02 Age : 60 Location : Dagenham Essex
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:56 am | |
| Im funding my trip 100% myself as this is the standard practice of Team bofa4x4 in all events we enter so this is why i only enter a limited amount of events each year but continue to support and fund raise for the other bofa4x4 teams. It is a difficult subject and has caused a lot of arguements in the past. Best thing is be honest and declare everthing . | |
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snow Lieutenant
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-07-03 Age : 36 Location : brighton
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:42 am | |
| Declare everything to who? People sponsoring? | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:38 am | |
| Making sure that the folk sponsering ye, know exactly where their hard earned dosh is going to be going to...... and used for.
I for one widnae like tae think that I was donating to H4H in the street and later found oot that the dosh is going on fuel, tyres, service, food clothing etc. But thats just me.......
I am fortunate that I can do that and can appreciate that others canny. Spreading the word of the H4H cause is priceless and is free.
Oh 'H', whats stopping ye from offering a space on yer car to 'joe pubic'? A name of a lost one on yer car going round Europe? Sells for me.. I haiv 2 such names on my car and have had for 5 years come Nov 27th. That has made my charities loads. and give us piece of mind as they watch over us during the drives. | |
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snow Lieutenant
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-07-03 Age : 36 Location : brighton
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:32 am | |
| - BOFA Bill wrote:
Oh 'H', whats stopping ye from offering a space on yer car to 'joe pubic'? A name of a lost one on yer car going round Europe? Sells for me.. I haiv 2 such names on my car and have had for 5 years come Nov 27th. That has made my charities loads. and give us piece of mind as they watch over us during the drives. yea thats a good point, but how would i go about ask such a question, or did they suggest this to you?! | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:12 am | |
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snow Lieutenant
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-07-03 Age : 36 Location : brighton
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:31 am | |
| knowing they had lost someone? or to see if they had or not?! | |
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BOFA Bill Lieutenant
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2009-06-24 Age : 114 Location : Poole, Dorset
| Subject: Re: Fuel Costs Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:54 pm | |
| they will generally tell ye that 'their someone' was lost, killed whatever in the conversation and thats when ye jump in with wouldnt it be good to have ther name on the car as ye retrace their own journey..... words to that effect Harry.
Offer a foto of the name on the car also | |
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